On November 13, I had the great pleasure of speaking about the causes of the Israel-Palestine conflict with Ahmad Malik, a doctor and orthopedic surgeon, on his podcast Doc Malik.
As he informed me when we started recording, he had just had on another guest, Norman Fenton, whom I was familiar with for his outspokenness against the COVID-19 lockdown regimes and their coerced mass vaccination endgame. Fenton was a repeat guest, but in this instance the two of them had discussed the Israel-Palestine conflict, and Fenton presented his views as a Zionist Jew.
Malik sought my responses to numerous arguments that Fenton had made. I hadn’t watched Fenton’s interview at the time but afterward did so. If you have the time, I encourage you to watch that episode, as well, which is titled “Part 1 – The Israel-Palestine Crisis From A Zionist Perspective”. Malik published my interview as “Part 2 – The Israel-Palestine Crisis From An Anti-Zionist Perspective”.
In addition, you will hear references to a number of other earlier episodes of Malik’s show, which I have since watched and also highly recommend. Find those episodes linked below also.
(I came down with a cold the day before and hadn’t slept that night, and we spoke early in the morning my time, so pardon my congestion and exhausted appearance. Fortunately, I had my coffee in hand and managed to be lucid and coherent in my remarks!)
Topics we discussed include the following:
- Why the claim that Palestine never existed is nonsense.
- How Arabs and Jews lived peacefully together in Palestine prior to the Zionist movement.
- How the purpose of the belligerent British occupation of Palestine was to facilitate the Zionist project by denying the Palestinians their right to self-determination.
- How Great Britain gained Arab support for the war effort against the German-allied Ottoman Empire by promising support for their independence from Turkish rule but then broke that promise.
- How the League of Nations “Palestine Mandate” was intended to provide “legal” cover to Britain’s belligerent occupation.
- How Israel to this day has no legally recognized borders.
- Why international human rights organizations and Israeli human rights organizations have described the political reality between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea as an apartheid regime.
- Why the claim that Israel is no longer the Occupying Power in Gaza because it withdrew its military forces and Jewish settlers from the ground in 2005 is premised on a rejection of what it means to be an Occupying Power under international law.
- Why the claim that the Arab states waged a genocidal war against the newly independent state of Israel in 1948 to wipe it off the map is a historical misrepresentation.
- How UN General Assembly Resolution 181 neither partitioned Palestine nor conferred any legal authority to the Zionist leadership for their unilateral declaration of the existence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948.
- Why the claim that East Jerusalem is “disputed” territory is false.
- Why the claim that most of the Arab population only immigrated to Palestine after Jews had settled and improved the land is a hoax.
- Why the claim that the root cause of the conflict is inherent Arab anti-Semitism is just more ahistorical nonsense.
- Why I became involved in this issue and began speaking out about the Israel-Palestine conflict.
- On a related but tangential point about 9/11 (since it came up as I spoke about how I got involved in journalism): how the free fall collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 means that all the building’s potential energy was converted to kinetic energy, which means that there was no energy available to do the work of buckling columns as required by NIST’s fire-induced collapse hypothesis.
- Why the equation of any criticism of the Israeli government’s crimes against the Palestinians with “anti-Semitism” is the height of intellectual and moral cowardice.
- Why anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism.
- How Orthodox Jews opposed the Zionist movement when it originated because they viewed it as an act of rebelliousness against God.
- How some of the most outspoken critics of Israeli government policies have been Jews.
- How Israel has since Hamas’s founding used the organization as a strategic ally to divide the Palestinian leadership for the purpose of ensuring that there will be no progress toward a negotiated peace agreement.
- Why the claim that “the Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity”, i.e., that they have repeatedly rejected generous offers for a state of their own, is just more ahistorical nonsense.
- Why the claim that Hamas came to power in Gaza by a violent coup is virtually the opposite of what really happened.
- Why the Palestinian Authority (PA) no longer has any legitimacy to represent the Palestinian people.
- How the PA was created under the Oslo Accords in the US-led so-called “peace process” to serve as Israel’s collaborator in enforcing its occupation regime.
- The important distinction between “a two-state solution” as described under the “peace process” and the two-state solution as described under international law.
- How Islamic extremist groups have long been utilized if not created by western governments and intelligence agencies for their own geopolitical purposes.
- How, for example, the CIA operated alongside Osama bin Laden’s organization in Pakistan to support the mujahedeen against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, how ISIS was a creation of the Iraq war, and how the US supported the most radical extremists in Syria to try to overthrow its government.
- Why a single state with equal rights under the law for all inhabitants is the most just and equitable solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict.
- Why the claim that Israel does everything possible during its military operations in Gaza to prevent harms to civilians bears no relationship to reality.
- How Israel uses the term “human shields” to mean any civilians that are killed by virtue of their being in Gaza, which use of the term bears no relationship to its actual meaning under international law.
- The words of wisdom and advice that I would give to my loved ones if I were lying on my deathbed.
Here are other episodes of Doc Malik worth watching or listening to:
I think you are totally brilliant and courageous, however, I can’t understand why and how you placed yourself in a tiny and dark ally of being anti-Israel.
Israel is the modern Jewish state, and as such has all the right in the world to exist and flourish, just as any other nation.
Had it not for the fierce religious Muslim hatred toward the Jewish national entity – the Middle East could have turned into heaven, and not into hundreds of kilometers of tunnels and bunkers as the Palestinians have done.
Had the Palestinians not followed the path of death (as they also supported Hitler) the entire picture would have been different.
It’s time to take responsibility for the many crimes against humanity that the Palestinians have committed.
Mistakes? Sure.
However, had it been another group standing in front of the Palestinian atrocities, it would have already ended.
Shaul, please watch the interview, and if you think I erred on any point of fact or logic, you are welcome to point it out to me. Short of that, my arguments stand, and to offhandedly dismiss my reasoned view as “anti-Israel” is intellectually dishonest for the reasons elucidated in the interview.
Thank you to both of you for a great interview, more like a discussion. It is amazing to me that there is so much history that most of us are unaware of, complicated, yet many resort to high school level (or less) mentality of ‘taking sides’ when they know nothing…
B/w this podcast and reading a couple of your recent newsletters on the topic, I am understanding more and more and look forward to continued reading!
Let us know when your paperback ‘Obstacle To Peace’ is back in stock.
Again thank you for your time in researching and revealing this info to us.
Hi Debbie. Thanks for the positive feedback! I’m glad your finding my work on this topic informative. The paperback of Obstacle to Peace is back in stock!
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/product/obstacle-to-peace/