There’s a Newsweek opinion article making the rounds on social media this week that shamelessly lies to readers by communicating the message that getting vaccinated does not come with any health risks.The very title of the piece reveals that it’s nothing more than mindless vaccine propaganda: “The Anti Vaxxer Movement Is Growing—We Need to Restore Faith in Science”.
“Anti Vaxxer”, of course, is the media’s derogatory label for anyone who dares to question public vaccine policy. Anytime you see this label being tossed out, you can know with 100% certainty that what you are reading is not a science-based discussion, but pure propaganda.One would think that doing a modicum of research into why more and more people are refusing vaccines for themselves or their children would be a requirement for writing an article about it. But not when the purpose is to advocate public vaccine policy instead of properly informing the public so they can make a truly informed choice!So, to fill anyone in who isn't already in the know: the problem is emphatically not that people are losing their faith in science. On the contrary, it’s that they recognize that what public health officials and propaganda rags like Newsweek say science says about vaccines and what science actually says are two completely different and mutually incompatible things.They recognize that, when it comes to vaccines, the mainstream media prefers to do public policy advocacy instead of journalism.
What the author, Barbara Rath, really means is that there is a need for public vaccine policy advocates to restore faith in public vaccine policy.
But she doesn’t want to do that by doing the science and finding safer and more effective ways of preventing disease.
Instead, she wants to do that by straight up lying to people about vaccine safety.
We can see this by reading just the first two sentences of the article: “The anti-vaxx movement has been gaining momentum in countries across the globe. In a world of post truth politics, more and more parents are buying into the belief that vaccines come with health risks.”
So there you have it. The implication, of course, is that vaccines don’t come with health risks—which is an utterly stupid and recklessly irresponsible lie.
Seriously, how insulting to our intelligence can these pro-vaxxers—to borrow their derogatory label—be?
How stupid do they think we are?
Notice that, by definition, an “anti-vaxxer” is someone believes that there are health risks associated with vaccination.
As an illustration of just how idiotic this article is, by that definition, the vaccine manufacturers themselves are “anti-vaxxers” since they include package inserts with all their vaccine products warning consumers of the known associated health risks.
For examples, Merck’s product insert for its measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine includes the following warnings:
For mothers, contraindications to vaccination include pregnancy, as “the possible effects of the vaccine on fetal development are unknown” since there are “no adequate studies” into that question. “However,” Merck appropriately adds, “it would be prudent to assume that the vaccine strain of virus is also capable of inducing adverse fetal effects.” The vaccine-strain mumps virus “has been shown to infect the placenta and fetus”. Studies have shown that the vaccine-strain of rubella virus can be transmitted to infants through the breast milk. Whether this is also true of the measles and mumps viruses “is not known”. Merck advises that “pregnancy should be avoided for 3 months following vaccination” and that “Caution should be exercised when M-M-R II is administered to a nursing woman.” The vaccine also “has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or potential to impair fertility.” Among those who should not receive it are children who are hypersensitive to any of the vaccine’s components, including gelatin and eggs, the latter because the live viruses are propagated in chick embryo cell cultures. The rubella portion of the vaccine is propagated in “human diploid lung fibroblasts”; specifically, WI-38 (ATCC®CCL-75TM), which contaminates the vaccine with human DNA from an aborted female fetus. (This has raised some concern over “ethical problems” at the Vatican; specifically about “cooperation in evil” and the “unjust” practice of forcing parents “to act against their conscience”.) Another ingredient is “fetal bovine serum”. Another is “recombinant human albumin”; specifically, Recombumin® Prime, a product of Novozyems Biopharma US Inc. This is a genetically engineered protein (“recombinant” means it was made by dicing and splicing genetic material). The product was developed because of concerns that using the blood protein albumin from humans or cattle carries the risk of blood-borne contaminants like mycoplasma, prions, or viruses. (This has happened. In March 2010, the rotavirus vaccine Rotarix, manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline, was found to have been contaminated with a pig virus after it was administered to a million children.) Possible adverse reactions to the vaccine include:
- Fever
- Snycope (fainting)
- Headache
- Dizziness
- Vasculitis (a condition in which the immune system mistakenly attacks the blood vessels, causing inflammation that can lead to serious problems, including aneurysms)
- Pancreatitis (inflammation of the pancreas that occurs when the digestive enzymes it produces begin digesting the pancreas itself)
- Diarrhea
- Vomiting
- Parotitis (inflammation of the parotid glands)
- Nausea
- Diabetes mellitus (diabetes)
- Thrombocytopenia (a disorder in which there is an abnormally low amount of platelets, which help blood to clot)
- Anaphylaxis (a life-threatening allergic reaction that can cause cardiac and respiratory arrest)
- Arthritis (joint inflammation)
- Arthralgia (joint pain)
- Myalgia (muscle pain)
- Encephalitis (inflammation of the brain, which can cause permanent brain damage or death)
- Guillain-Barré syndrome (an autoimmune disorder in which the immune system attacks the peripheral nervous system, which can result in paralysis or death)
- Febrile seizures (convulsions brought on by fever)
- Afebrile seizures (convulsions without fever, which may indicate epilepsy)
- Pneumonia
- Measles-like rash
- Death
But we’re supposed to believe that anyone who knows that vaccination is a medical intervention entailing risk is somehow anti-science!
The insults to our intelligence don’t stop there, of course. You can probably guess what the very next sentence in the Newsweek propaganda piece is about….
That’s right, you guessed it! The supposedly “debunked” link between vaccines and autism! Rath writes, “Many still believe the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine is linked with autism, despite numerous scientific studies debunking this myth.”
Of course, “anti-vaxxer” parents know that the claim that science has disproven the hypothesis that vaccines can cause autism at least in a subpopulation of genetically susceptible individuals is a Big Lie.
The “anti-vaxxers” understand that, in reality, the number of studies examining the hypothesis that the CDC’s routine childhood vaccine schedule might be contributing to the autism epidemic is zero.
Zero!
In fact, the body of studies the pro-vaxxers are referring to when they state their Big Lie has only considered one vaccine on the CDC’s schedule (the MMR) and one vaccine ingredient (Thimerosal, which by weight is about half ethylmercury, a known neurotoxin).
“Anti-vaxxers” also understand that the hypothesis is not only biologically plausible, but that those studies weren’t designed to test it.
Rath’s motive is illuminated further down the page, where she opines that “Restoring trust in vaccines and immunization requires innovative solutions….”
Notice that she’s dropped the pretense of restoring faith in science and just stated flatly that it’s faith in public vaccine policy that she’s really after—and these are two mutually incompatible aims.
She speaks of “the widening communication gap between patients and healthcare professionals.”
There is indeed such a communication gap. This is because the patients are doing their own research and thinking for themselves and most healthcare professionals simply are not.
The most fundamental communication gap, though, is that between what the public is told science says and what science actually says.
Of course, the aim of this Newsweek article isn’t to educate people about the science, but to advocate public vaccine policy. In fact, the whole purpose of the article is to promote a new mobile app developed by the Vienna Vaccine Safety Initiative, of which the author is co-founder and chair.
The app is called VaccApp, and as we can deduce from Rath’s implicit lie that getting vaccinated doesn’t come with any health risks, it isn’t designed to properly inform people about the science, but only to give them information to persuade them to follow the CDC’s vaccine recommendations.
In other words, we can glean from this Newsweek article that the VaccApp is less than worthless and you should not use it because it’s obviously going to be an untrustworthy source for information about whether or not to vaccinate.
If you want to be able to make a truly informed choice about whether to vaccinate, you need to know what science really says, as opposed to what you’re being told by mainstream propaganda outlets, who are just serving the function outlined by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky in their book Manufacturing Consent. (That is, they are doing public policy advocacy to manufacture consent for the CDC’s vaccine recommendations, not journalism.)
The simple fact of the matter, as this mindless Newsweek piece so amply demonstrates, is that there is no serious discussion of the vaccine issue in the mainstream media.
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Attacking Ourselves: Top Doctors Reveal Vaccines Turn Our Immune System Against Us
“Yehuda Shoenfeld, the Israeli clinician has spent more than three decades studying the human immune system and is at the pinnacle of his profession.
You might say he is more foundation than fringe in his specialty; he wrote the textbooks: The Mosaic of Autoimmunity, Autoantibodies, Diagnostic Criteria in Autoimmune Diseases, Infection and Autoimmunity, Cancer and Autoimmunity—the list is 25 titles long and some of them are cornerstones of clinical practice.
Hardly surprising that Shoenfeld has been called the “Godfather of Autoimmunology”—the study of the immune system turned on itself in a wide array of diseases from type 1 diabetes to ulcerative colitis and multiple sclerosis.
But something strange is happening in the world of immunology lately and a small evidence of it is that the Godfather of Autoimmunology is pointing to vaccines – specifically, some of their ingredients including the toxic metal aluminum – as a significant contributor to the growing global epidemic of autoimmune diseases.”
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/attacking-ourselves-top-doctors-reveal-vaccines-turn-our-immune-system-against-us
Greenmedinfo as a source? How pathetic.
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Oh dear.
Scientists at the pinnacle of their profession do not have papers retracted. Shoenfeld has two retracted.
False.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/health/dr-piero-anversa-harvard-retraction.html
That case supports my argument. Once malfeasance in science is shown, the penalties are severe. Because we rely on trust, probably overmuch, we feel betrayed whenever such a case occurs. When Kajstura was shown to have altered data the roof fell down.
If only such draconian measures were applied in other walks of life.
The premise of your argument was that “Scientists at the pinnacle of their profession do not have papers retracted.”
That is false, as that case shows.
A case that shows that your premise is false does not support your argument.
In a strict temporal sense I suppose you are correct but neither are at the pinnacle of their profession now they have had papers retracted. At all levels of science having a paper retracted is usually career death.
It isn’t true in any one particular “sense” that your statement was false. It was just plain false.
Yet neither of those are at the pinnacle. Including Schoenfeld who you claimed was at the top.
Perhaps you’re right, since he went on to take a job with the pharmaceutical industry.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/health/baselga-sloan-kettering-astrazeneca.html
You seem confused. I haven’t said a word about him.
yes, sorry, it was @nrbrk
GOT KIDS? DON’T GIVE THEM THE FLU VACCINE UNLESS YOU WANT THEM TO END UP IN THE HOSPITAL.
NIH STUDY: Effectiveness of Trivalent Inactivated Influenza Vaccine in Influenza-Related Hospitalization in Children: A Case-Control Study.
“A case-control analysis was performed with the cases and the controls being the subjects who did and did not required hospitalization with the influenza illness, respectively. There were 261 subjects with laboratory-confirmed influenza from 1996 to 2006. There was an overall trend toward higher rates of hospitalization in subjects who got the TIV when compared with the ones who did not get the TIV (odds ratio [OR], 3.67; CI, 1.6, 8.4)
…there was a significant association between hospitalization in asthmatic subjects and TIV (p = 0.001). TIV did not provide any protection against hospitalization in pediatric subjects, especially children with asthma. On the contrary, we found a threefold increased risk of hospitalization in subjects who did get the TIV vaccine.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22525386
Strange that you left off the final part of the abstract.
José Peralta, First Dominican-American Elected to New York State Senate, Dies …from Flu Shot Received at His Own Flu Shot Clinic!
Peralta’s wife said he was complaining that it felt like his head was about to explode—that’s encephalitis, the brain swelling inside the skull with no place to go.
Now imagine that happening to an infant, with no ability to communicate. That’s why infants cry for entire days after vaccination—encephalitis.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/nyregion/jose-peralta-dominican-american-senator-dead.html
“I have over 13,000 children in my pediatric practice and I have to say, as unpopular as this observation might be, my unvaccinated children are by far the healthiest,” says Dr. Paul Thomas, a Dartmouth-trained pediatrician and addiction specialist who has been practicing medicine for 30 years. “I’ve had a team compiling data for a research study that is now undergoing peer review—some of which is published in my new book, ’The Vaccine-Friendly Plan.’
The data is surprising and counter-intuitive, perhaps, but it shows very clearly that the incidence of chronic disease and brain abnormalities in the entirely unvaccinated children in my practice, even those with siblings with autism, is much much lower than in children following the CDC’s recommended schedule.”
— Dr. Paul Thomas, pediatrician
RESEARCH: Hepatitis B vaccine can lead to brain-damaging effects
Latest research findings reveal a scary connection between brain damage and the hepatitis B vaccine.
Neonatal exposure to hepatitis B vaccines is associated with neurobehavioral deficits and brain damage in rodent models. This is a pretty scary reality. But, to better understand the “how,” the researchers conducted a new study, recently published in the peer-reviewed journal Cytokine.
https://www.naturalhealth365.com/hepatitis-b-vaccine-dangers-2774.html
A Call for a Separation of Pharma and State
https://healthfreedomidaho.org/acip
If the flu shot doesn’t kill you—it’ll really mess you up.
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/12/06/las-vegas-man-unable-to-speak-walk-see-or-breathe-just-days-after-getting-flu-shot/
Since vaccine companies have no liability – it seems they are allowed to get away with murder literally.
The first vaccine Corvelva a scientific research group, thoroughly tested was Infanrix Hexa – a six-in-one vaccine manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) that is *supposed* to contain the following antigens: tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis toxoids; inactivated poliomyelitis viral strains 1-2-3; and hepatitis B surface antigen. Shockingly, Corvelva found NONE of these antigens in the vaccine, meaning, that NO antibodies to the intended antigens will be created.
And it gets worse. In addition to no vaccine antigens, they found the following:
traces of 65 chemical cross-contaminants from other manufacturing lines;
chemical toxins;
unrecognizable macromolecules;
various free bacterial peptides that are potential allergens and are capable of inducing autoimmune reactions.
These findings could bring justice to parents who lost their children in 2009 when 36 children died and more than 1,700 were injured in a “clinical trial” – the nice name for human experimentation.” They also found:
1. Priorix Tetra, GlaxoSmithKline – NOT CONFORMING
2. Infanrix hexa, GlaxoSmithKline – NOT CONFORMING
3. Measles live vaccine B.P., Poonawalla Group – NOT CONFORMING
4. PolioInfanrix, GlaxoSmithKline – NOT CONFORMING
5. Vivotif, PaxVax – NOT CONFORMING
Yep the HSS and CDC are doing their job alright
https://www.corvelva.it/…/vaccingate-5-of-7-vaccines…
“A Newsweek propaganda piece absurdly lies that vaccination entails no health risks…”
Where exactly does Ms. Rath say that? Or are you relying entirely on a suite of logical fallacies in your lousy story?
I identify where she lies in my article. I suggest you read it.
JoeFarmer is a well known biotech chemical industry PR asset on social media who has recently thrown in with the big pharma PR troll network that often has more agenda driven PR operatives on these threads than real authentic commenters. Interacting with him or his co-workers is a waste of time. All they bring is their nasty to conversations.
JoePharmer is a pretty pathetic Shill. His drive by stupid couldn’t convince a junkie to shoot up. Many are block and ban worthy.
That’s JoePharmer
Oh great, Sparkle Plenty. You’ll have no problem providing evidence then. I mean, since it’s well known and all.
All the evidence anyone needs is contained in farmer’s posting history on Disqus. A peek at yours shows that you have proved my point. Right on cue too.
Hmm…*looks at farmer’s posting history*
No paycheque. No internal instruction sheets. No testable falsifiable definition that applies whether or not someone agrees with you/him.
*looks at my posting history.*
Nope, none of those there either.
Post the paycheque since it’s your claim that you made yourself.
The discussion is about the bogus PR scripted Newsweek piece. I don’t care if you are blind to the PR ruse you are a part of, because you are off topic and wasting bandwidth with your scripted BS.
That would have far more effect if you had evidence for scripted. And you are the one who brought the paid thing up; if you didn’t think it was relevant to this piece then all you had to do was not mention it.
Since you have mentioned, it you clearly think it was on-topic. So again: What evidence do you have? This should be easy since everyone knows.
Says JoePharmer’s coworker .
One Other Person is Shilling
As I said. The discussion is about the bogus PR scripted Newsweek piece. I don’t care if you are blind to the PR ruse you are a part of, because you are off topic and wasting bandwidth with your scripted BS.
So you’re relying on the logical fallacies. Thanks for clearing that up.
It’s not enough to claim I’ve made logical fallacies.
You have to actually identify one.
I judge by the fact that you’ve twice now claimed they exist while failing to identify even one that you’re incapable of doing so.
Go to your doctor’s office or a local pharmacist to protect your health issues and your family.. meantime, the MSM (media) will be someday prosecuted and imprisoned for scaring the general public.
One of the ways my wife and I have improved our own health has been to just stop listening to doctors. In our experience, most are so ignorant that they do more harm than good, and the few that are good doctors are incapable of helping you anyway due to the restrictions imposed on them by government regulations and the insurance system.
There are some good enlightened doctors, but they are few and far in between. Many of them woke up when issues directly impacted them or their family members.
yup!
This is just one small sample of the “willing to be a psychopath” and leading people down the garden path without doing any research…
interesting article on veterans today, Diary of an Israeli Shill, exactly what we encounter online regarding all sorts of issues, including vaccinations.
WRONG! That clause is put in to hide the truth. Their is sufficient evidence as to direct causality. But admitting it would cause the system trouble marketing the vaccines. Also would open them more to liability.
Face the truth Ms Lang, if they were so sure that there is no connection they would NOT have pushed (paid) for laws to release them from indemnity!
Also if there was absolutely no causality the vaccine courts would NOT have paid out billions of dollars.
Plus I’ve got news for you, I know from up close that doctors, nurses, clinics, hospitals have been ordered to shut up, ordered to conceal to fabricate whatever need be fabricated so as to not connect vaccines & adverse effects. A doctor or nurse can lose his/her job for daring to tell the truth!
Verna gets conned Part One
Yeah right. If it happens after being vaccinated it wasn’t cause by the tooth fairy it was the vaccine.
What B.S. That phrase is a disclaimer that prevents evidence from being considered evidence. You must be incredibly naive or you are an industry insider.
And who insists the phrase “without regard to causality” be used? Wouldn’t be vaccine promoters with bias and a conflict of interest by any chance?
Do you approve of the media lying to parents that vaccination entails no risk?
Your use of personal insults shows what you really are & it’s not a compliment.
So you want to move the goal posts as usual. You want readers to believe VAERS and NVICP are nothing and that its all about lawyers and not about science or vaccines. I imagine the decisions of the vaccine court are decided on how many feathers they bring too. Your dishonesty is duly noted once again.
Your denial that the CDC has a major influence on other countries’ public vaccine policies is plain silly.
Your presented syllogism is: since Infanrix was approved for use in the US subsequent to its approval and use in other countries, therefore the CDC does not have a major influence internationally. But this is a non sequitur fallacy: the conclusion does not follow from the premise. It is possible for the US to have approved this vaccine later than other countries and also for the CDC to have a major influence internationally.
For example:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6004a16.htm
I have lost patience with your trolling behaviors.
I guess Britain doesn’t use the chicken pox vaccine because it believes it results in shingles later, because it disagrees with CDC
Personal desire has nothing to do with it.
Since you are deflecting rather than addressing what I said, I repeat:
Measles generally was a benign disease by 1963. That is a simple historical fact.
It is also a fact that the reduction in mortality occurred almost entirely before the vaccine was introduced due to an increasing standard of living, including better nutrition.
It is well established that vitamin A deficiency, for example, is a risk factor for measles complications, and high dose vitamin A is actually used as a treatment for measles by the WHO.
Flagged for hurting my feelings
The mouse that roared…
Whenever you talk about sick and twisted nonsense Thomas, it’s a sure sign you need to take your medications again.
Yeah, Petey, we know. I will remind everybody that you are willing to use faked child p*n to defend your “profession”. I am doing that on twitter and quora.
Still repeating the same nonsense from last year Thomas?
Of course, that’s all you have left. You are the clown of these discussion boards!
The entire year of 2018, you did everything in your power, to avoid presenting evidence of your so-called peer-reviewed scientific career that spanned 25 years.
This year, will be the year that we remind everybody, that you are now a confirmed fraudster, con artist and Imposter.
And Thomas, if you think you are proving a point, by trolling me and others with your multiple fake disqus accounts, then it’s just more confirmation that you are a clown and a fool.
Still having no brains and balls to write a confirmatory e-mail or post own data ? Trousers full to the brim so that it smells all the way up to Austria ?
Almost 100(!!!) posts and not one single post having any meaning. Naturopaths at work, Petey.
Then have the brains and the balls to mail any other T Mohr on my papers, Petey. But that is not your thing because it would expose you as a liar.
That’s not his Point.
He’s pointing out that you are a troll, a clown and a fool, which is 100% accurate.
It doesn’t prove a thing, the only thing it proves, is the level of your subterfuge and creativity when creating false identities.
He emailed you, to your fake website.
I rest my case.
Well, if these guys would be really concerned about vaccine safety, they would not present false facts, would they ?
Oh, so paraphrasing gives you a licence lie.
And you suggest reading comp on my part. Too funny. Yea legal language AKA a big lie.
But you think repetitive puppeting represents reading comprehension.
Well, Ronnyboy had the balls to notify the “real” Thomas Mohr. Now guess who answered ?
Peter it is obvious that Verna Lang is a paid shill – I think Mike Stevens and his crew are on Christmas holidays – a brief respite.
a hearfully felt belly laugh. thank you.
The usual vacuous Sabelmouse response.
haha
Big surprise. But then you have those claiming falsely that they all operate independently and don’t influence each other. Thanks for showing us they do.
No, I don’t think the CDC decides everything for the world, but it certainly does have a major influence.
And I am writing this specifically for an American audience, although there are certainly implications for policies in other countries.The concerns raised are valid.
What makes this even funnier is that Judith doesn’t live in the US.
What rubbish. Does medical consensus operate ONLY in the USA? Do all countries REINVENT the wheel or do they share data etc? We aren’t talking about healthcare for profit. Vaccines are used to save on healthcare costs.
As a member of that far larger group called the non-American part of the world, I assure you that while the CDC is respected for its quality data, other sources are more important. Incidentally, you should read some of the CDC publications, a good deal of their references come from foreign sources.
This is a strange response to my challenge to you to identify what it is I wrote, specifically, that you are claiming is factually incorrect or doesn’t logically follow.
I did not say that you said that. I simply illustrated the fallacy of your logic by applying it to another cause of death.
‘DUH, YAWN, DUH’
An essay by Duddy Boy.
Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
All these RARE disorders nowadays. I’ll tell you what ISN’T RARE, DISORDERS of so many kinds.
Flu shots are the NUMBER ONE vaccine compensated for adverse reactions by the NVICP
Most flu shot complications are never reported. A friend’s husband got very ill straight after the flu and then had a stroke. He is now a paraplegic. The doctor made no connection with the shot.
Are you claiming that every individual aged six months and up is at greater risk of dying from the flu than from a car accident?
Either way, your argument is just stupid.
That’s like you claiming you have friends
And your evidence being where Thomasopedia
“Extremely unlikely”, doesn’t mean you can rule it out entirely.
Nice spinorama
I sent you a link to simple English Wikipedia, to make you understand the immune system is not a relic of evolutionary biology, like you first claimed.
Remember Thomas, I sent you simple English Wikipedia many times, not just for the immune system, but to educate you about the basics of biology.
Maybe a Pharma Paid convention is being held
i’ve seen mikey around :( losing comprehension by the minute.
Verna, once again, if you think I’ve erred on any point of fact or logic in the article, you are welcome to identify what it is.
She lied.
Oh yes, Petey. P-value hacking.
So tell us Thomas, what did you say you would do on Christmas day?
Verbatim quote, Peter.
Verbatim quote, Peteyboy.
I have mentioned you and Ron Roy on my websites, Petey. Those identical with the T Mohr I allegedly stole data from.
So are you now denying, that you said the immune system is irrelevant earlier in your illegal and dodgy website?
Did you say, that you would offer Christmas greetings to everyone, prior to Christmas?
So you are denying that you wouldn’t intimidate and bully people on Christmas day?
“This finding is almost certainly a spurious one…”
And yet, you couldn’t find one fault.
And the Somali in Minnesota?
2 points, where is your meta-data to back up your argument.
And why are you here on Christmas day?
You said earlier, you wouldn’t bully and intimidate people on Christmas Day.
Another lie Thomas?
Yes, to all your points, and all I will add, is that this is just an example of the willful and deliberate blindness from the pro vaccination mob.
By the way, I think I’ve mentioned it before, but Verna Lang is also Thomas Mohr.
“The problem with VAERS is it is a passive reporting system and it is estimated by former FDA commissioner David Kessler than few than 1% of adverse events are reported. A better system was sought but trashed by CDC as obviously it did not suit their agenda to keep the public in the blind about vaccine damage.
“The idea of automating adverse event reporting to VAERS is not new or even difficult to achieve.32 The Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, an agency within HHS, sought to do exactly that in 2007 when it provided an approximately $1 million grant to automate VAERS reporting at Harvard Pilgrim Health Care.33 The result was the successful automation of adverse event reports at Harvard Pilgrim:
Preliminary data were collected from June 2006 through October 2009 on 715,000 patients, and 1.4 million doses (of 45 different vaccines) were given to 376,452 individuals. Of these doses, 35,570 possible reactions … were identified.34
These results should have been startling to HHS since they show that over only a three-year period, there were 35,570 reportable reactions in just 376,452 vaccine recipients. Given HHS’s statutory mandate to assure safer vaccines, it should have rushed forward with automating VAERS reporting. However, this is not what happened.
After automating adverse event reports at Harvard Pilgrim, the developers of this system asked the CDC to take the final step of linking VAERS with the Harvard Pilgrim system so that these reports could be automatically transmitted into VAERS. Instead, the CDC refused to cooperate. As the Harvard grant recipients explained:
Unfortunately, there was never an opportunity to perform system performance assessments because the necessary CDC contacts were no longer available and the CDC consultants responsible for receiving data were no longer responsive to our multiple requests to proceed with testing and evaluation.35
After three years and spending $1 million of taxpayers’ money, the CDC refused to even communicate with the HHS’ Harvard Medical School grant recipients.”
https://www.icandecide.com/white-papers/VaccineSafety-Version-1.0-October-2-2017.pdf
And that is similar to the Vaccine Court where they claim they hand out $$ as long as you bring a feather. Of course all parents are liars and are ripping off the ethical, empathetic, warmhearted government who in its mercy gives them $$ w/o evidence.
Who can we trust to ensure vaccine safety? not the HHS or the CDC
When pharma gained immunity from prosecution for vaccine damage the 1986 act entrusted HHS to do safety studies and supply a report every 2 years. Robert Kennedy asked for these reports but they were not done. HHS is now being sued. This shows how poor is vaccine surveillance – safety studies are not being done.
The CDC is the largest purchaser of vaccines in the world, and their budget to purchase vaccines from pharmaceutical companies was over $5.1 BILLION in 2018, and is set to increase to over $5.4 BILLION in 2019.
Can we trust the CDC to oversee vaccine safety with such a blatant conflict of interest?
The CDC approved list of recommended childhood vaccines, which many states use as a requirement to receive a public education, is by far the highest number of vaccines approved for children of any other developed nation in the world, and the U.S. also has the highest rate of infant mortality of any developed nation in the world.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2018/should-the-cdc-oversee-vaccine-safety-when-they-purchase-over-5-billion-of-vaccines-from-big-pharma/
You are as daft as they come. You actually believe the use of these phrases make the phrases true. You must actually believe KFC is finger Lickin Good too because they repeat it.
“Dr. Peter Aaby is renowned for studying and promoting vaccines in Africa with over 300 published studies. In 2017, he published a study finding children vaccinated with DTP were 10 times more likely to die in the first 6 months of life than the unvaccinated. Dr. Aaby’s study therefore concluded that: “All currently available evidence suggests that DTP vaccine may kill more children from other causes than it saves from diphtheria, tetanus or pertussis.” More disturbing is that children vaccinated with DTP were dying from causes never associated with this vaccine, such as respiratory infections, diarrhea, and malaria. This indicated that while DTP reduced the incidence of diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis, it increased susceptibility to other infections.
It is equally troubling that Dr. Aaby’s study was based on data that had been collecting dust for over 30 years.118 This begs the question: what other serious vaccine injuries are we missing because of neglect to conduct proper vaccine safety science?”
https://www.icandecide.com/white-papers/VaccineSafety-Version-1.0-October-2-2017.pdf
Measles generally was a benign disease by 1963. That is a simple historical fact.
It is also a fact that the reduction in mortality occurred almost entirely before the vaccine was introduced due to an increasing standard of living, including better nutrition.
It is well established that vitamin A deficiency, for example, is a risk factor for measles complications, and high dose vitamin A is actually used as a treatment for measles by the WHO.
out of 4+ million. pros always forget to mention that. and hospitalisation as such is meaningless.
plenty of brain swelling happening with vaccines, but ignored/not reported.
language always changes.
Measles vaccine? Emm? Oh:”It was similar with the measles vaccination. They went through Africa,
South America and elsewhere, and vaccinated sick and starving
children…They thought they were wiping out measles, but most of those
susceptible to measles died from some other disease that they developed as
a result of being vaccinated. The vaccination reduced their immune levels
and acted like an infection. Many got septicaemia, gastro-enteritis,
etcetera, or made their nutritional status worse and they died from
malnutrition. So there were very few susceptible infants left alive to get
measles. It’s one way to get good statistics. Kill all those that are
susceptible, which is what they literally did.” –Dr. Kalokerinos, M.D.
So her flu shot didn’t work – it is effective about 10% of the time at the most.
“A MAN claims he was left partially paralysed, unable to see or speak just one day after having a flu jab.
Shane Morgan went from being perfectly healthy to being unable to breathe on his own, confined to a hospital bed after getting the injection.
“About 36-hours after he got the flu shot he started to get sick,” Monique said.
Docs started treating him for Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) – a rare disorder where a person’s immune system damages their nerve cells.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/7914779/flu-jab-left-man-unable-to-breathe-walk-or-see/
So can the flu shot.
I’ve had friends and acquaintances die and a few getting lifelong disabilities from vaccines. So your point is?
Yea I know. After a series of vaccines my child lost his ability to have the normal life we intended. So before you try to lay a guilt trip on me for other’s misfortune remember we have our own and we aren’t even treated with respect for trusting safe vaccines.
Are you practicing your projection technique?
JeremyRHammond I agree
I have noticed that you never seem to post anything other than snide comments and generally stupid remarks. Apparently you are just a troll.
for an elderly austrian he’s very good at anglo-american insults though.
They all do this. Providing links to skepticalratturd and eviduncebasedmedicine, total shill sites.
Yeah, Petey, because Wikipedia contains links to the sources, you clown. You o.t.o.H use simple English Wikipedia as a teaching ressources, probably because this is what you learned at naturopathic quack school.
I’m writing an essay on Lying by Omission, can I quote you?
This is just a prime example, of how you try and turn the discussion around, when specific questions were asked of you.
It only shows your epic failure, to backup your previous nonsense, and make some intelligible and cogent argument.
His shorts?
Maybe he served 25 for fraud at the school of hard knocks?
Out of ALL businesses and industry, its the only one that gets near blanket protection. And then claim their vaccines are safe. Then for .75 cents per vaccine they are charged, they get the NVICP set up to deal with their victims.
Yep. Pharma pays a .75 cent surcharge per poison injection and it GUARANTEES near blanket protection from most forms of litigation. Car makers etc are asking WHERE CAN WE SIGN UP???
Thomas’s whole rationale for he’s argument is so flawed, it’s ridiculous.
In short, he claims that VAERS exists because there are greedy lawyers out there trying to exploit the industry that produces vaccines.
But of course, there are no other compensation arrangements in place for all the other death and injuries caused within other sections of the pharmaceutical / medical industrial complex, such as…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-21/health-advocates-warn-another-medical-device-scandal-inevitable/10143162
So it’s a glaring oddity, that there is just a compensation scheme a place for injuries caused by vaccines, but no other compensation body to oversee all the other aspects of the pharmaceutical / medical industrial complex.
Unfortunately his shift was changed.
“You said earlier, you wouldn’t bully and intimidate people on Christmas Day.”
Verbatim quote ?
I get a sense T M is a sock puppet. All of a sudden his behavior and language and photo changed.
That’s Thomas Mohr’s DUHble standard.
Tommy as well as Shady are employed by the CDC.
Spot on!
Hahaha, as usual, you quote Wikipedia, and not the original source.
There is one fundamental flaw in your argument, actually, there are many, but one stands out, do you know what it is?
In short words, the NVICP was founded to prevent people from getting just compensation for injuries to their children caused by vaccines. Out of all the pharmaceutical used by millions, many of which were removed from the market because of serious side effects, only vaccines needed special protection.That alone is cause to suspect that they’re inherently dangerous.
Any chance you can shove this rubbish up Uranus? Wikipedia as a source? The great scientist Thomas (please no) Mohr rolls the dice and craps out.
Verbatim quote, Petey.
Verbatim quote Petey. Everything else has to be regarded a lie.
Based on your monkey business, and willingness to distort history and science, you are up to everything… including editing simple English Wikipedia, as you discussed in the now illegal and locked up website.
So now Wikipedia is also hacked ?
And why do you blaspheme at Christmas time?
We know, that you edit simple English Wikipedia, which shows two points… you don’t have any understanding of medicine and biology, and that simple English Wikipedia cannot be trusted now.
A great example of your inconsistency and the flip flopping.
It is convenient when you use Wikipedia, but you criticize others for doing the same thing.
Good you mention Thompson. He actually disproves you. The study he criticzed found no connection between autism and vaccination, except in a very subgroup. This finding is almost certainly a spurious one, as further prevalence studies show. If it would be a true positive, autism in afrian american males would have a much higher prevalence which it has not
Once again Verna falls for the con that package inserts are some sort of fairy tale and in no way represent evidence of harm from vaccines. But she did spare us another story about seat belts or the risk of crossing the street so I guess there’s a silver lining.
Hilarious you saying “lying by omission” to describe someone else. I thought you had a monopoly on it.
A short list? You mean the propaganda list.
I answer that question in the above article.
Incorrect. I listed “Possible adverse reactions” to the vaccine as listed in the package inserts. The point being, of course, that it is stupid to lie that vaccines entail no risk when the manufacturers themselves acknowledge that these listed outcomes could possibly be caused by the vaccine.
The real question here is why you are trying to defend Newsweek lying to the public by communicating that vaccination entails no health risks.
Total joke. Your link to a 2007 opinion piece. But it did say one thing I liked. The link between vaccines is rejected because of INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. Not based on no evidence. And that leads us to why there is insufficient evidence, they won’t do it or support it. CDC silences Thompson. The GMC silences Wakefield. It makes perfect sense they are stonewalling.
But Thomas, you have just quoted Wikipedia yourself!!
Are you that deranged, that you flip flop in the space of a few hours??
Nevermind, the answer is already in.
Why don’t you sound like Thomas Mohr the blockhead all of a sudden?
Its not a photo of Uranus is it? I just ate lunch and don’t care to ralph it up.
Actually, it’s Thomas Mohr’s other disqus account.
How about you doing so ?
Nope, Petey. You sent it only for the immune system. For the rest you sent nothing whatsoever.
Then why in Christ’s name do you not write to these scientists, you clown ?
Make a claim
Provide 3 citations from peer review journals to support it
Provide relevant quotes from the papers (not the abstracts)
Situate the studies within the preponderance of the scientific evidence
Explain why your citations take precedence over scientific consensus
Make a claim: That’s easy.
Provide 3 citations from peer review journals to support it. That’s because most scientist and peer review journals, are bought and paid for by the drug industry, ( Ill show proof at the end of this.
Explain why your citations take precedence over scientific consensus. Well for one those scientists and doctors who make statements / claims that would harm the vaccine industry risk their livelihoods and have nothing to gain by doing so. Other than doing to public a service.
Now for my proof: Dr. Marcia Angell, former Editor of NEJM: “It is simply no longer possible to
believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the
judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no
pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two
decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine…No one knows the
total amount provided by drug companies to physicians, but I estimate from the
annual reports of the top 9 U.S.-based drug companies that it comes to tens of
billions of dollars a year in North America alone.By such means, the
pharmaceutical industry has gained enormous control over how doctors evaluate
and use its own products. Its extensive ties to physicians, particularly senior
faculty at prestigious medical schools, affect the results of research, the way
medicine is practiced, and even the definition of what constitutes a disease.”
Sex Bot alert!
“…alleged flaws in my google scholar profile.”
You use the word alleged, so it’s still possible that you have indeed stolen scientists data and personalities.
It is not my task to point out alleged flaws in my google scholar profile. It is your task to prove your claims. So far this is a pathetic failure.
And what’s your age Thomas?
It’s hard to say, with all your photoshopped avatars you keep flip-flopping with.
Let me lecture you once again fake Thomas Mohr, their age is unlikely to be that old
Neither can you Thomas, just like you cannot explain your much proclaimed 25 year research history.
The only faily here Thomas, is your inability to convince everybody that you are a peer-reviewed scientist, with 25 years experience.
You still can’t work it out can you?
Probably, because you wouldn’t make mistake in the first place…
But this is to be expected, from my fake and a fraud and a con artist such as yourself.
Well, Petey you use simple English wikipedia to explain the immune system, so what ?
One of the biggest Duds on here. Always pops up with stupid comments.
A weak reply from Verna. Must be a day that ends in Y
Something ending in Y.
disqus_ruSIKtVC0i already
Exactly, Duddyboy. Therefore the claim “they died from vaccines” is extremely unlikely, the more since he claims to have several friends having died from vaccines.
Grasping at straws for a straw man
Drama queen.
Great hyperbole and bluster. It makes great Saturday night entertainment. What lengths big pharma will go to keep the rubes in darkness. Dark stuff. Not for the weak stomach.
Mr Dress Up? Posing as a female?
Or they diagnose it as naturally occurring w/o evidence it is.
Verna’s point is the same old Appeal to Authority gambit. If the Authorities repeat it it must be true.
Die from vaccines ? How old are you ? 200 ? 250 ?
Big Whoop
I wonder who wrote those regulations? LOL!! Corruption is what makes the game work.
Tell us, Petey. Or is that again a failure ?
In other words, the next failure, Petey. You can’t name the problem.
I strongly suspect, that miss Lang, is actually Thomas Mohr’s other disqus account.
needed! necessity! not usian hospitals taking in hostages to make money. 2 different things.
i didn’t learn any english spelling in primary school, but i can usually distinguish between spelling mistakes, and typos. or is it typoes? cause the english it don’t make sense.
And here come’s Verna with appeal to stats. She said she’s puzzled, then proves it.
”Sometimes I wonder if there are not some evil financial geniuses in the
pharmaceutical world who are secretly funding anti-vaccine campaigns in
order to increase their bottom line by decreasing vaccination rates and
increasing hospital stays” There isn’t because the real gravy train is in all the injuries cause by vaccines.Imagine a business being able to create more customers. Neat trick.
Verna they are such subhuman types they probably lie about KILLER DISEASES and death too.
Of pneumonia I bet and old age.
Well, Dudd, to quote Wikipedia:
“The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP or NVICP) was established by the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA), passed by the United States Congress in response to a threat to the vaccine supply due to a 1980s scare over the DPT vaccine.Despite the belief of most public health officials that claims of side effects were unfounded, large jury awards had been given to some plaintiffs, most DPT vaccine makers had ceased production, and officials feared the loss of herd immunity.[1]
No evidence has been found to support a link between autism spectrum disorders and vaccines,[2] and the scientific consensus is that routine childhood vaccines have no link to the development of autism. Despite this, some parents of children with autism spectrum disorders have attributed the disorders’ onset to vaccines,
and more than 5,300 parents have filed petitions at the vaccine court. The vaccine court dismissed the suits and ruled that the MMR vaccine does not cause autism.[3]”
The problem with the US legal system is that it is often cheaper to reach a settlement rather than fight the case. In combination with lawyers being allowed to charge on a success based system, and everybody paying his share, process risk is very low for people like you, Dudd, who file fraudulent or false claims. Additionally Science in a jury court is to a large part a question who has the better lawyers and who has the better image.In other words, it was quite easy for people like you to reak in the big buck. As a consequence, there was a very real danger of suppliers don’t selling vaccines in the US anymore.
In short words, the NVICP was founded to prevent people like you, Dudd, yes, YOU, from filing lawsuits that might cripple vaccination rates to the point that others are endangered.
The law and science are frequently at odds and this is one of those times.
No I’m not claiming that. That comes from vaccine advocates like you. What I and many say, is that adverse events are managed and misinformation is chronic. In order to maintain a vaccine program they MUST lie about safety and efficacy.
Lebron James had the flu this week. He didn’t die.
What DUH. Vaccines are NEVER FREE. How many times must a pro-vac be told about TAXES. You find things puzzling? We are trying to rectify that but you are far too pig headed to listen. The U.S. government would never allow these companies to do that, just as they didn’t prior to the 1986 Vaccine Act. So drop your other NONSENSE about that.
Srsly, why doesn’t the cabal try to earn more money? Saying this, while remembering that a friend died this year because he contracted the ‘flu in the year prior and it caused him to develop heart failure.
weather it’s health ”care” is somewhat dubious at this point. measles very rarely requires hospital ”care”.
Wikipedia is no source, dudd. It is a compilation of sources.For the real source look at this: here
Decades of litigation led to the establishment of VAERS and NVICP too. Research didn’t prevent or rectify the lawsuits that found vaccine makers at fault over and over either. But it led to government conceding (with disclaimers) what was really happening.
Let me guess, free flu vaccines at the office Christmas party.
OMG what a fallacy that since the phrase “safe and effective” is often used it must be true. That is the hope, but thousands of injury claims and 19 countries with dedicated vaccine injury compensation programs don’t support your weak claim.
Yes, the author lies, as in “to create a false or misleading impression”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lie
That vaccination is a medical intervention that entails risks of serious harm is not in the least controversial, and I hardly have to defend my having pointed out this fact.
You, on the other hand, really are trying defend Newsweek lying to people.
Verna approves of every trick in the manual.
Gee dud, HHS says it because it is true. Decades of research prove it. That is why Verna believes it, not because it is some kind of magic mantra.
Nice job describing the highly managed issue of vaccine adverse reactions. Gee I wonder where you get it from. So why pay minimum $250,000 for a sore shoulder , headache or for fainting? If there “isn’t even any proof required” why pay that much? And with no evidence? Yea its all so clear now you’ve explained it.
Buh Wah Ha Ha DISINGENUOUS x 1,000,000
What are you trying to pull now? Tell us WHY Congressional hearings were held and why they resulted in VAERS and NVICP. Was it because some lawyers decided? The Wakefield Anti- Vaccine CULT set them up, or was it due to real need? Were perhaps vaccine makers being litigated out of business and threatening to completely get out of the vaccine business and government wanted vaccines and so all this happened? And how did 18 other countries decide they needed programs for headaches and sore arms?
I’ve read the decisions of the vaccine court so stop lying.
So you would be on record saying science is not involved in the deliberations that led to the NVICP and other vaccine related issues?
Verna INSISTS on being that stupid to impress the others like JoePhamer