I joined host Mike Leavitt for a second time on his podcast And If Love Remains to delve further into the Israel-Palestine conflict, and we also discussed the topics of 9/11, the Iraq War, the Federal Reserve, COVID‑19, and vaccines.
In his description for the show, Mike writes, “Jeremy is fearless in telling the truth, even to those who religiously deny it … and that might be you.” I think that remark is particularly relevant for our discussion of the role of Christian Zionism in the Israel-Palestine conflict. During our discussion, we took a liberty-minded approach, centering our assessment of various issues around the principle of non-aggression.
Specific topics we discussed include:
- How I got started on my path to doing independent journalism after the events of September 11, 2001, and how my research led me to start speaking out in 2002 against the forthcoming US war on Iraq on the grounds that the US government was lying about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction (WMD).
- How a second propaganda narrative that there had been a US “intelligence failure” was manufactured to whitewash the fact that the US government had propagated a deliberate campaign of deception to deceive the American people and the world to manufacture consent for an illegal war of aggression.
- How people can make or break their careers by producing conclusions desired by the US government as opposed to being honest, and how this is just as true in the scientific community as it was in the intelligence community leading up to the Iraq war in 2003.
- The need for some kind of perceived external threat to justify and manufacture consent for foreign policies that are contrary to Americans’ own interests, not to mention extraordinarily harmful to people from other countries.
- What the motives were for lying to start a war for the purpose of regime change in Iraq.
- How Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks, has been relentlessly persecuted by the US government for exposing, for example, US war crimes in Iraq.
- My thoughts on the question of whether the 9/11 events were a false flag event, deliberately allowed to happen, or just used as a convenient “opportunity” to advance the neocons’ pre-planned foreign policy agenda.
- Why the Israel-Palestine conflict became a particular focus of my research.
- How the anti-intellectual accusation of “anti-Semitism” for expressing legitimate criticisms of Israeli government policies is akin to the accusation of being “anti-science” for expressing legitimate criticisms of public vaccine policy.
- Why, prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, I had already shifted the focus of my work entirely from foreign policy matters to public vaccine policy.
- The simple question you can ask yourself to determine clearly and unambiguously whether government agencies like the CDC serve public health or the pharmaceutical industry.
- Why we need a free market in healthcare the same as we need to end the economic scam of central banking.
- Why there is no more perfect manifestation of democratic principles than a free market economy.
- Why the institution of statehood needs to be rendered obsolete, and how, someday, when humankind becomes civilized, they are going to look back at our present era as an age of barbarism.
- Why most people do not have a love for the truth but are willing instead to believe lies.
- How the Democratic and Republican parties in the US are just two heads of the same beast.
- Why the Israel-Palestine conflict is actually very simple, and how understanding of it is obfuscated by the very concept of statehood.
- Why Israel has no “right to exist”.
- How the League of Nations’ Mandate for Palestine violated its own charter.
- Why the root cause of the Israel-Palestine conflict is the rejection of Palestinians’ self-determination.
- Why the entire US-led so-called “peace process” was always the means by which Israel and its superpower benefactor blocked implementation of the two-state solution.
- Why the argument that Israel ended its occupation of Gaza in 2005 is utterly ludicrous.
- How international law applies to the Hamas’s “Operation Al Aqsa Flood” in Israel on October 7 and Israel’s retaliatory “Operation Swords of Iron” in Gaza.
- Why I do not share the popular belief that the Israeli government deliberately allowed the 10/7 attacks to happen, and why I am instead convinced that the attacks represented an absolute failure of the Netanyahu government’s policies.
- The simple and incontrovertible reasons why Israel’s military operation in Gaza meets the definition of “genocide” under international law.
- Why Israel’s genocide in Gaza is the logical corollary of the Zionist ideology.
- How it has only been possible for Israel to openly commit genocide with impunity because of the longstanding US policy of supporting Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians.
- Why the news media’s description of what’s happening in Gaza as the “Israel-Hamas War” is so intellectually and morally perverse.
- How the argument that Hamas is responsible for all civilian deaths because it uses the population as “human shields” depends on a euphemistic use of the term meaning any civilians killed in Gaza by virtue of them being in Gaza.
- How even the Vatican has condemned Israel’s targeting of civilians as “terrorism”.
- How Israel’s goal of making Gaza uninhabitable is visibly manifested on the ground in Gaza.
- How Israel has systematically targeted the civilian population, including the systematic targeting of Gaza’s hospitals.
- How the so-called “peace process” was premised on a rejection of the applicability of international law to the conflict.
- Why the ludicrous claim that Palestinians have unreasonably rejected generous offers for a state of their own is such a disgusting distortion of reality.
- Why the simple solution to the conflict is for the fundamental human rights of the Palestinian people to be respected.
- How the only real concessions ever made throughout the entire so-called “peace process” always and only ever came from the Palestinian side, starting with the PLO’s major concession of accepting a Palestinian state on just 22% of historic Palestine.
- How the government of South Africa has charged Israel with the crime of genocide at the International Court of Justice, and why the US government has also been in violation of the Genocide Convention.
- Why governments are never going to get the job done and it is up to us to take action to achieve a just peace in the Middle East.
- How the ideology of Christian Zionism overlooks one of the key lessons taught in the Old Testament and is incompatible with the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament.
- How the Pope has condemned Israel’s “terrorism” against Christians in Gaza.
- How the major lesson from the COVID-19 lockdown madness and the coerced mass vaccination endgame is that the thoroughly corrupt so-called “public health” establishment is more concerned with industry profits than with public health.
- How global COVID-19 mass vaccination campaign has been essentially a mass uncontrolled experiment on the human population without properly informed consent.
- Why the simple solution to medical tyranny is a free market for health care.
- How a mortality benefit of COVID-19 vaccines has never been proven.
- How the claim that it was scientifically impossible for vaccine mRNA to be integrated into human DNA was a non sequitur fallacy.
- How COVID‑19 vaccines have been found to be contaminated with DNA from the manufacturing process, and why this heightens the potential for integration into the host genome.
Here are some additional resources mentioned:
- My debate with Alan Futerman on The Tom Woods Show
- My prior appearance on Mike’s show
- My article “Visualizing Israel’s Goal of Making Gaza Uninhabitable”
- My book Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
- My e-book Benny Morris’s Untenable Denial of the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine



Hi Jeremy, do you consider cooperatives compatible with a free market economic system?
Hi Moorea,
Please explain what you mean by “cooperatives” so I can answer your question.
Of course :) I mean businesses governed collectively by their employees or by their consumers/members. For example, credit unions, health food co-ops, Organic Valley dairy farmers, and the Green Bay Packers.
Good interview, by the way!
Thanks. I don’t see any reason why cooperatives would be incompatible with a free market. It is, as far as I can see, people engaging in voluntary exchange and cooperation for mutual benefit, which is the very essence of the free market.
Hello Jeremy!
I reached the 2 hour mark of your, as usual, very comprehensive analysis of this methodically planned genocide and so many other issues. The USG’s utterly indefensible, irrational support of the murderous state of Faux-Israel is at the root of our loss of liberty here at home. I look forward to the final 48 minutes. Thanks to the unending PSYOPS of the USG on it’s own population, with the enthusiastic support of “Christian Zionist” pastors, the level of cognitive dissonance that the Sheeple will accept as fact is astounding! Someone once observed that; “Propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give the moral coward an excuse not to think at all.” As a Christian I am disgusted at the moral cowardice of Western Church. I am spreading the word about your work and also the recent “Call for Repentance: An Open Letter from Palestinian Christians to Western Church Leaders and Theologians”.
Never surrender your mind, body or soul!
With you in the fight for truth,
Sincerely, Brutus
“Propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give the moral coward an excuse not to think at all.”
That is a great quote. Very true. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!