Interview: US Support for Israel’s Crimes against the Palestinians

On February 18, I joined Nate the Mutualist again on his podcast to discuss the Israel-Palestine conflict and the US government’s role in it. Note that at the time of our discussion, a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel was in effect, which agreement was violated by Israel—with encouragement from President Donald Trump—to resume its genocidal military operations in Gaza on March 18.

In the context of discussing the criminal nature of the government and the sociopathic character traits of individuals who are attracted to positions of power within it, we also reviewed a few key aspects of the COVID‑19 lockdown madness and its coerced mass vaccination endgame.

Watch the full interview here:

Israel’s Genocide in Gaza

Our discussion started with a focus on the genocidal nature of Israel’s assault on Gaza launched in retaliation for the Hamas attacks in Israel on October 7, 2023.

We talked about how the media serve to manufacture consent for the longstanding bipartisan US policy of supporting Israel’s genocide, including by mischaracterizing the conflict as having been “started” by Hamas on 10/7 and describing as a “war” Israel’s indiscriminate bombardment of completely defenseless civilians and systematic targeting of Gaza’s civilian infrastructure—including its health care system.

I noted the hypocrisy of genocide apologists who in November and December of 2023 were denying Israel’s visible intent to render Gaza uninhabitable in contrast to Donald Trump in January 2025 advocating the ethnic cleansing of surviving Palestinians on the grounds that Israel had succeeded in turning Gaza into “a demolition site”. (Note: I mistakenly said “2024” a couple times when I meant 2025.)

Another illustration of the hypocrisy is how Israel’s apologists rightly condemn acts of terrorism by Palestinians while arguing that Israel’s incomparably greater crime of genocide is justified.

A common accusation is that it is hypocritical to focus one’s criticisms on Israel, which I rebut by observing how Americans have a moral obligation to focus our efforts on ending the crimes committed by the criminal organization in Washington, DC.

Addressing the habitual claim that it all started on 10/7 with Hamas’s “Operation Al Aqsa Flood”, I summarized key context perpetually omitted by the mainstream media going back to the 1917 Balfour Declaration and the British government’s support for the Zionist project of reconstituting Arab Palestine into a demographically Jewish state, culminating in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in 1948.

I also explained how Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is sought under an arrest warrant by the International Criminal Court (ICC) for war crimes and crimes against humanity, had always maintained Israel’s policy of utilizing Hamas as a strategic ally to block any movement toward peace negotiations with the Palestinians.

I discussed the openly genocidal intent of Israeli leaders and explained what Hamas’s goal was for its Operation Al Aqsa Flood”—and how Hamas succeeded in that aim.

On Voting and Its Alternatives

In the context of the US government’s bipartisan support for Israel’s genocide, I observed how we could anticipate that a Trump administration—like the Biden/Harris administration—would support a continuation of Israel’s genocide.

My comments proved prescient in light of Trump since having encouraged Israel to violate its ceasefire agreement with Hamas and resume its genocidal assault on the civilian population of Gaza.

Indeed, I predicted this outcome back in October and warned my friends and colleagues within the health freedom movement against compromising our values by allying with Zionism and effectively consenting to more dead Palestinian children as an acceptable cost of getting Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. into a government position.

I had publicly withdrawn my support for RFK, Jr.’s candidacy in November 2023 because of his unconscionable support for Israel’s genocide—and I certainly was not about to compromise the moral principle underlying that decision by voting for Trump!

My clearly stated position at the time was that no matter how great a candidate might be on other issues, there are certain positions that ought to automatically disqualify any candidate from our consideration—and supporting a genocide is certainly one of them. I explained to Nate how I have still never seen any counterarguments to that principled position from any of my critics who’ve objected to my stance against voting.

On the topic of Kamala Harris, her prior role as California’s Attorney General came up, so I mentioned how she makes an appearance in my book The War on Informed Consent for her role in advancing the regime of medical authoritarianism.

From there, we got into a discussion about how meaningful change always occurs from the bottom up, not from the top down. (See, for instance, Howard Zinn’s book A People’s History of the United States.)

Following the same train of thought, I explained why eliminating the institution of statehood is a prerequisite for achieving a civilized human society.

Most Americans believe that they are “free”, but I explain why that is a delusion that people are indoctrinated into since early childhood, and how, to be able to move society forward, we need to confront people with their own cognitive dissonance.

I also explain how it is not only possible but necessary to organize society around the principle of non-aggression—as opposed to the current system based on the threat or use of violence to achieve aims determined by the least principled people among us.

Debunking Zionist Myths

Returning to the Israel-Palestine conflict, I explained how most of what people think they know about it just isn’t true, providing numerous examples from the Mandate era onward, including some drawn from my e-book Exposing a Zionist Hoax.

I address the argument of Walter Block—who absurdly maintains he’s upholding libertarian principles while supporting Israel’s genocide—that all the land belongs to the Jews because of their ancient ancestral connection to the land. Setting aside the fact that the libertarian concept of land ownership is based on homesteading, not ancestral DNA or religious affiliation, I point out how Palestinians also have an ancient ancestral connection to Palestine.

In fact, as I explain in my freely downloadable e-book A Brief History of Palestine: From Canaan through the Mandate Era, DNA studies show that both Palestinians and Jews are descended from Canaanite tribes.

The truth is that Israel is a Jewish supremacist state enforcing an apartheid regime over all the former territory of Palestine. I explain the perversity of most of Israeli society having become outright genocidal.

I explain my belief that most Americans are generally good people, but they are deceived into lending their consent for the US government’s policy of supporting Israel’s crimes against humanity because of incessant bombardment with Zionist propaganda narratives about the conflict.

Among the myths is the belief that Israel was established by UN General Assembly Resolution 181, which in truth neither partitioned Palestine nor conferred any legal authority to the Zionist leadership for their unilateral declaration of the existence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948.

The purpose of that myth is to conceal the historical reality of how the “Jewish state” of Israel was established through the ethnic cleansing of most of the Arab population from their homes in Palestine.

Another myth is the tired Zionist propaganda claim that Palestinians left voluntarily because they were told to do so by the Arab leadership, which I efficiently debunk by citing an impeccable source: an Israeli military intelligence document from June 1948 assessing that the main reason for the Arabs’ flight was the Zionists’ offensive military operations—including the actions of the Jewish terrorist organizations Irgun and Lehi.

As detailed in my book Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the solution is therefore to effect a mass awakening to achieve the paradigm shift required to make it politically infeasible for the US government to continue its complicity in the oppression and mass murder of Palestinians.

In this context, I returned to providing more context about Israel’s policy of utilizing Hamas as a counterforce to the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) because of the PLO’s acceptance of the two-state solution and the resulting “threat” of peace.

I further explain how the Oslo Accords established the Palestinian Authority (PA) to serve as Israel’s collaborator in enforcing its occupation regime.

I also explain the critical distinction between the two-state solution and the goal of the US-led so-called “peace process”, which was always the means by which Israel and its superpower benefactor blocked implementation of the two-state solution.

In that context, I explained why the claim that Israel’s attack on Egypt in June 1967 was “preemptive” is false. I set the record straight about Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser’s bellicose rhetoric, Egypt’s movement of troops into the Sinai Peninsula, and Nasser’s expulsion of UN peacekeepers.

The October 7 Attacks

Fast forwarding again, I debunk the claim that Israel ended its occupation of Gaza in 2005.

I then get into more details about Netanyahu’s policy of utilizing Hamas as a strategic ally, noting how it is recognized as a fact in the Israeli media while almost always omitted from US mainstream media reporting on 10/7.

I relate how, two weeks before the 10/7 attacks, Netanyahu gave a speech at the UN General Assembly mocking the Palestinians, boasting how Israel had beaten them down in partnership with the US.

I explain the purpose of the Abraham Accords and “normalization” talks with Saudi Arabia and remind how the Israeli prime minister held up a map of “The New Middle East” showing only Israel—from the river to the sea.

Coming back to the 10/7 attacks, I also explain how many of the Israeli government’s claims of atrocities that were uncritically parroted by the US government and mainstream media proved to be hoaxes.

Another fact always omitted from mainstream media reporting is how the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) de facto implemented its “Hannibal Directive” on 10/7, indiscriminately killing its own citizens to prevent them from being taken hostage by Palestinian armed groups.

Sociopathy in Government: COVID-19 Lies and Mass Murder

After Nate shared a video clip of Israeli military veterans confessing—and laughing about—the rape and murder of Palestinian civilians during the 1948 ethnic cleansing operations, we returned to a point raised about how government power attracts individuals with personality disorders, like narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths.

I was reminded of how former CDC director Rochelle Walensky gave an interview in which she laughed about how she and other “public health” officials had brazenly lied that the mRNA COVID‑19 vaccines would stop infection and transmission of SARS‑CoV‑2—which she admitted was a claim based not on science but “hope”.

I mentioned how Dr. Anthony Fauci had similarly lied that the vaccines would confer “herd immunity” despite knowing perfectly well at the time that the COVID-19 vaccines were not designed to stop infection and transmission.

I also explained how in 1986 the US government granted legal immunity to vaccine manufacturers to shift the financial burden for vaccine injuries away from the pharmaceutical industry and onto the taxpaying consumers.

That 1986 law also established the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), which has blared the huge safety signal of a massive number of deaths reported after receipt of COVID‑19 vaccines—more than all other vaccines combined for the life of the surveillance system.

Coming back to foreign policy matters, we highlighted how Hillary Clinton joked about Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi being sodomized and murdered by US-backed forces during the disastrous and illegal NATO regime-change operation.

Citing a final example, Nate and I highlighted the example of then Secretary of State Madeleine Albright being asked on 60 Minutes whether the consequence of half-a-million dead Iraqi children was a price worth paying for the US government’s crippling sanctions regime against Iraq and her response, “We think the price is worth it.”

Additional Resources

If you enjoy this interview, here are relevant books of mine you will definitely want to check out:

• Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
• Exposing a Zionist Hoax: How Elan Journo’s “What Justice Demands” Deceives Readers about the Palestine Conflict
• The Rejection of Palestinian Self-Determination: The Struggle for Palestine and the Roots of the Israeli-Arab Conflict
• Benny Morris’s Untenable Denial of the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
• The War on Informed Consent: The Persecution of Dr. Paul Thomas by the Oregon Medical Board

Also, if you’re not already on my mailing list, be sure to sign up for my email newsletters and download my free e-book A Brief History of Palestine: From Canaan through the Mandate Era debunking Zionist myths about the pre-Israel history of Palestine!